[Tux3] "Intent logs" on separate device with tux3 ?

Michael Keulkeul kriptomik at gmail.com
Thu Mar 12 04:51:26 PDT 2009


Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your comments, much appreciated !

I'm with you, it's a volume manager problem rather than a filesystem
problem.
There is some nice things to do on the volume manager layer, like this
heirarchical storage but also corrupted data autocorrection, and a modern
IDA kernel level implementation (cleversafe like-but-better) and probably
more. Dedup should also be a part of it (I'm not sure to see the full
picture here). It would be so nice to see linux ahead in that area !

You really push my will to start coding again :)   (fear of the amount of
work is the main break I must admit)

Regards,

Michael B.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Daniel Phillips <phillips at phunq.net>wrote:

> On Thursday 12 March 2009, Michael Keulkeul wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Would it be possible to have a dedicated device for fast syncronious
> > transactions, and latter flush to slower storage with tux3, or is this
> hard
> > because of the design ?
> > Sort-of copy the ZIL scheme of ZFS, and be able to recover all writes
> after
> > a failover or a power loss.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your answers !
> >
> > Michael B.
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I expect Tux3 to be pretty fast for synchronous writes even without a
> scheme like ZIL.  But if it were to be done, I would think a generic
> virtual block device that implements a heirarchical cache would make
> more sense than doing something special in the filesystem.
>
> In general, I would like to view most of this "accelerate disk with
> a small amount of expensive persistent storage" ideas as logical
> volume manager problems.  Unsolved ones, to be sure, but no actual
> reason for that.
>
> As a volume manager solution, we could map part of the volume to fast
> disk and most of the volume to normal, slow disk.  Then we always
> allocate new writes into the fast disk area, and migrate those blocks
> off somewhere else later (yes, Tux3 will have block migration).  A
> good Master's thesis or two in there for someone.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
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